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		<title>Comment on LA City Attorneys Smash SEIU 721 &amp; Julie Butcher by LACAA Board Members Juliann Anderson &#38; Jule Bishop RECALLED &#124; LA City Workers.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>LACAA Board Members Juliann Anderson &#38; Jule Bishop RECALLED &#124; LA City Workers.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2011 16:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] After attempting to hold an unauthorized election with the assistance of SEIU 721s Julie Butcher and working to have the members accept a bad deal the fed up rank and file members took action and they removed them from office sending a vote of confidence as well to the LACAA Board. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] After attempting to hold an unauthorized election with the assistance of SEIU 721s Julie Butcher and working to have the members accept a bad deal the fed up rank and file members took action and they removed them from office sending a vote of confidence as well to the LACAA Board. [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Pat McOsker lacks backing of rank &amp; file LAFD personelle, Labor in CD15 Race by Pat McOsker &#8211; Quick Facts &#124; Pat McOsker for City Council??</title>
		<link>http://www.lacityworkers.com/blogs/2011/lacity/pat-mcosker-lacks-backing-of-rank-file-lafd-personelle-labor-in-cd15-race/comment-page-1/#comment-129</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat McOsker &#8211; Quick Facts &#124; Pat McOsker for City Council??</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2011 06:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Source: http://www.lacityworkers.com/blogs/2011/lacity/pat-mcosker-lacks-backing-of-rank-file-lafd-personell... [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Source: http://www.lacityworkers.com/blogs/2011/lacity/pat-mcosker-lacks-backing-of-rank-file-lafd-personell&#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on 2 Rouge LA City Attorneys Conspire With SEIU 721&#8242;s Julie Butcher by LA City Attorneys Reject CAO Proposal &#38; SEIU Interference &#124; LACityWorkers.com - City of Los Angeles Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.lacityworkers.com/blogs/2011/lacity/2-rouge-la-city-attorneys-conspire-with-seiu-721s-julie-butcher/comment-page-1/#comment-128</link>
		<dc:creator>LA City Attorneys Reject CAO Proposal &#38; SEIU Interference &#124; LACityWorkers.com - City of Los Angeles Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2011 05:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Attorney&#8217;s were put off by the tactics and misinformation  spread by the two who started making wild claims in a desperate attempt at persuading their [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on LA City Attorneys Smash SEIU 721 &amp; Julie Butcher by g20</title>
		<link>http://www.lacityworkers.com/blogs/2011/lacity/la-city-attorneys-smash-seiu-721-julie-butcher/comment-page-1/#comment-126</link>
		<dc:creator>g20</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2011 19:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So kiki ... How does it feel to Tony V&#039;s errand girl?  Do ya think the City Council is going to give you a high-5 for stabbing your co-workers in the back?  The rogue board members who acted illegally haven&#039;t done any of us a favor.  The obnoxious uber-lobbying &quot;yes&quot; crowd hasn&#039;t done any of us a favor.  Julie Butcher hasn&#039;t done any of us a favor.  Unless you&#039;re so close to retirement, agreeing to pay 4% (atop of the 1% we just started paying) is idiotic because you&#039;re going to pay that 4% as long as you&#039;re employed by the city.  You want to trade 20 years of 4% for a few furlough days in the upcoming year?  Really?  Short term gain.  Long term loss.  Do you really think that&#039;s a good deal?  Really?  LACAA&#039;s problem is SEIU.   LACAA&#039;s problem is fools who think the CAO and SEIU are looking out for our collective best interests.  LACAA&#039;s problem is that some of you won&#039;t take &quot;no&quot; for an answer.  Well ... &quot;NO&quot; ... &quot;No means no&quot; ... and it&#039;s going to stay &quot;no.&quot;  Julie Butcher is nice?  Seriously?  Who cares?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So kiki &#8230; How does it feel to Tony V&#8217;s errand girl?  Do ya think the City Council is going to give you a high-5 for stabbing your co-workers in the back?  The rogue board members who acted illegally haven&#8217;t done any of us a favor.  The obnoxious uber-lobbying &#8220;yes&#8221; crowd hasn&#8217;t done any of us a favor.  Julie Butcher hasn&#8217;t done any of us a favor.  Unless you&#8217;re so close to retirement, agreeing to pay 4% (atop of the 1% we just started paying) is idiotic because you&#8217;re going to pay that 4% as long as you&#8217;re employed by the city.  You want to trade 20 years of 4% for a few furlough days in the upcoming year?  Really?  Short term gain.  Long term loss.  Do you really think that&#8217;s a good deal?  Really?  LACAA&#8217;s problem is SEIU.   LACAA&#8217;s problem is fools who think the CAO and SEIU are looking out for our collective best interests.  LACAA&#8217;s problem is that some of you won&#8217;t take &#8220;no&#8221; for an answer.  Well &#8230; &#8220;NO&#8221; &#8230; &#8220;No means no&#8221; &#8230; and it&#8217;s going to stay &#8220;no.&#8221;  Julie Butcher is nice?  Seriously?  Who cares?</p>
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		<title>Comment on LA City Attorneys Smash SEIU 721 &amp; Julie Butcher by jhonster</title>
		<link>http://www.lacityworkers.com/blogs/2011/lacity/la-city-attorneys-smash-seiu-721-julie-butcher/comment-page-1/#comment-125</link>
		<dc:creator>jhonster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2011 13:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I couldn&#039;t leave this one alone either kik217.

I know Julie Butcher as well.  I was in SEIU 721 for 5 miserable years.  And I can tell you after being in that union vs. the union that I&#039;m in now (IBEW Local 18) that Julie Butcher was/is a terrible manager &amp; has no clue of how to fight for peoples negotiated &amp; legally binding contracts.

Regardless of if you think the attacks on her are mean spirited, the facts are the facts.  Ms. Butcher &amp; her conservative Republican partner Bob Schoonover have RUINED SEIU 721.  They have cowardly ran away from defending our 2007 contracts every step of the way.  The FACTS are that SEIU had millions of OUR DUES MONEY to take HUHW workers of Kaiser to court to fight them for SEIU&#039;s personal interests.....but....when SEIU members UNANIMOUSLY DEMANDED SEIU Local 721 run TV ads, put up billboards &amp; air radio spots to tell Los Angeles residents THE TRUTH about the city councils &amp; mayors wasteful ways.

This recent economic downturn &amp; poor management of the cities was not the workers fault.  The city council &amp; the mayor are big boys and girls.  Their only problem is that they couldn&#039;t run a 7-11 on a graveyard shift or balance their own checkbooks if they had to, which is why were here today.

Julie Butchers and Bob Schoonovers job is to PROTECT the contract we agreed to back in 2007.  They both have failed miserably &amp; have left a wake of income distruction for the workers represented by SEIU Local 721.  Julie has always been nice to me in person &amp; she talks a good game, but the facts are....she has let the members down each step of the way &amp; has NEVER put up a REAL FIGHT against the city council &amp; mayor using the 54 million they collect EVERY YEAR from SEIU Local 721 members.  This should have been a legal fight against the City of Los Angeles from day one.  If SEIU Local 721 knew what they were doing, they would have used their legal resources and power in numbers &amp; fought the way IBEW Local 18 did to protect their contracts.  But you see, that would have taken REAL work on the part of the SEIU Local 721 staff.  Not very likely considering their track record.

I say good riddance to Julie Butcher, but leaving to go to SEIU to represent the county isn&#039;t far away enough.  She needs to leave Los Angeles or get out of the union business altogether.  She IS NOT  good at what she does.  And like I said, the proof is in the pudding.  Our 2007 contract has been treated like toilet paper by the city council &amp; the mayor.  And if you remember....the 2007 5 year contract that bragged about a 26% increase over 5 years was SUPPOSED to be a PAYBACK to L.A. City workers for the TERRIBLE contract we had before which gave us 0% the 1st year, 1% the 2nd &amp; 2% the 3rd.  Or don&#039;t you remember that?

If SEIU did what we pay them to do, which is HELP US defend our contract, we would have had our 26% pay increases by 2012 &amp; we would have been negotiating a new contract for 2012.

Irregardless if you think Julie Butcher is a nice person, she is a terrible union boss.  She needs to take some lessons from IBEW&#039;s Brian D&#039;Arcy starting with a slogan that IBEW used to PROTECT THEIR CONTRACTS.....&quot;A DEAL IS A DEAL&quot;  Does that compute with you?  I know it doesn&#039;t with Julie, Bob or SEIU Local 721 because they&#039;ve cowarded every step of the way when the members needed some real representation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I couldn&#8217;t leave this one alone either kik217.</p>
<p>I know Julie Butcher as well.  I was in SEIU 721 for 5 miserable years.  And I can tell you after being in that union vs. the union that I&#8217;m in now (IBEW Local 18) that Julie Butcher was/is a terrible manager &amp; has no clue of how to fight for peoples negotiated &amp; legally binding contracts.</p>
<p>Regardless of if you think the attacks on her are mean spirited, the facts are the facts.  Ms. Butcher &amp; her conservative Republican partner Bob Schoonover have RUINED SEIU 721.  They have cowardly ran away from defending our 2007 contracts every step of the way.  The FACTS are that SEIU had millions of OUR DUES MONEY to take HUHW workers of Kaiser to court to fight them for SEIU&#8217;s personal interests&#8230;..but&#8230;.when SEIU members UNANIMOUSLY DEMANDED SEIU Local 721 run TV ads, put up billboards &amp; air radio spots to tell Los Angeles residents THE TRUTH about the city councils &amp; mayors wasteful ways.</p>
<p>This recent economic downturn &amp; poor management of the cities was not the workers fault.  The city council &amp; the mayor are big boys and girls.  Their only problem is that they couldn&#8217;t run a 7-11 on a graveyard shift or balance their own checkbooks if they had to, which is why were here today.</p>
<p>Julie Butchers and Bob Schoonovers job is to PROTECT the contract we agreed to back in 2007.  They both have failed miserably &amp; have left a wake of income distruction for the workers represented by SEIU Local 721.  Julie has always been nice to me in person &amp; she talks a good game, but the facts are&#8230;.she has let the members down each step of the way &amp; has NEVER put up a REAL FIGHT against the city council &amp; mayor using the 54 million they collect EVERY YEAR from SEIU Local 721 members.  This should have been a legal fight against the City of Los Angeles from day one.  If SEIU Local 721 knew what they were doing, they would have used their legal resources and power in numbers &amp; fought the way IBEW Local 18 did to protect their contracts.  But you see, that would have taken REAL work on the part of the SEIU Local 721 staff.  Not very likely considering their track record.</p>
<p>I say good riddance to Julie Butcher, but leaving to go to SEIU to represent the county isn&#8217;t far away enough.  She needs to leave Los Angeles or get out of the union business altogether.  She IS NOT  good at what she does.  And like I said, the proof is in the pudding.  Our 2007 contract has been treated like toilet paper by the city council &amp; the mayor.  And if you remember&#8230;.the 2007 5 year contract that bragged about a 26% increase over 5 years was SUPPOSED to be a PAYBACK to L.A. City workers for the TERRIBLE contract we had before which gave us 0% the 1st year, 1% the 2nd &amp; 2% the 3rd.  Or don&#8217;t you remember that?</p>
<p>If SEIU did what we pay them to do, which is HELP US defend our contract, we would have had our 26% pay increases by 2012 &amp; we would have been negotiating a new contract for 2012.</p>
<p>Irregardless if you think Julie Butcher is a nice person, she is a terrible union boss.  She needs to take some lessons from IBEW&#8217;s Brian D&#8217;Arcy starting with a slogan that IBEW used to PROTECT THEIR CONTRACTS&#8230;..&#8221;A DEAL IS A DEAL&#8221;  Does that compute with you?  I know it doesn&#8217;t with Julie, Bob or SEIU Local 721 because they&#8217;ve cowarded every step of the way when the members needed some real representation.</p>
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